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产业转让、保安/维护费欠款与出入管理蒲种 Putra Prima 8A(TPP8A)围篱与保安社区

1. 为什么产业更换业主后常发生纠纷?

纠纷通常发生在以下情况下:原业主在出售产业前停止缴付保安或维护费用,而新买家在完成交易前未向居民协会查询该单位状况

当新业主入住并申请门禁卡或自动闸门权限时,才发现该单位仍有未清欠费,从而引发误解。


2. 为什么保安与维护费是跟着单位,而不是跟着人

保安与维护服务属于以产业单位为基础(unit-based的公共服务,不论业主或住户是谁,服务始终提供给同一个单位。

当费用未缴付,代表社区已为该单位提供了服务。因此,欠费是附着在产业单位本身,而非个人


3. 为什么居民协会不追讨已搬走的前业主?

居民协会并非任何买卖或租赁合约的当事方

在产业完成转让后,居民协会与前业主不再存在管理关系,也无权介入或执行私人合约。相关责任应由买卖双方自行处理。


4. 这样对新业主是否不公平?

居民协会理解新业主的感受,但必须强调:产业交易的尽职调查责任属于买卖双方,并非社区责任。

因此,居民协会早已在社区入口处设立公告,提醒所有潜在买家及租户在作出任何承诺前,应主动向居民协会查询单位状况。


5. 居民协会是否强迫新业主代还前业主欠款?

不是

居民协会不会强迫任何人向特定对象付款。欠费如何处理,应由买卖双方在买卖合约(SPA)中自行解决

居民协会仅负责执行保安管理及既定标准作业程序(SOP)。


6. 为什么有时无法立即使用自动闸门或门禁卡?

这属于保安管理措施,并非惩罚。

在行政或登记事项未完成前,出入可能需经由保安操作或进行身份核实。出入权利未被剥夺,产业所有权亦不受影响。


7. 这样的做法是否合法?

是的

马来西亚法院已确认,居民协会有权在合理情况下,对未缴费单位实施合理的出入管理措施。这是全国围篱与保安社区的常见做法


8. 为什么居民协会不能直接注销欠费?

若每次产业转让就注销欠费,将导致守时缴费的居民承担他人欠款,并影响社区长期财务与保安运作

居民协会有责任维护全体居民的共同利益


9. 买家应如何避免此类问题?

建议潜在买家:

  1. 在签署合约前联系居民协会
  2. 查询单位的保安与维护费状况
  3. 在 SPA 中妥善处理相关事项
  4. 完成后进行出入系统登记

10. 居民协会的处理原则是什么?

居民协会秉持透明、公平、合法及一致执行的原则,确保围篱与保安社区的长期稳定与可持续发展


蒲种 Putra Prima 8A 居民协会
管理委员会

FAQ-Change of Ownership, Outstanding Security & Maintenance Fees And Access Control

Change of Ownership, Outstanding Security & Maintenance Fees, and Access Control
Taman Putra Prima 8A (TPP8A)
(Majlis-Approved Gated & Guarded Community Scheme)
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1. Why do disputes often arise after a change of property ownership?
Disputes typically arise when a previous owner ceases payment of security or maintenance fees prior to selling the property, and the new purchaser completes the transaction without verifying the unit’s status with the Residents’ Association (RA).

When the new owner subsequently applies for access cards or automated barrier access, outstanding charges attached to the unit may be discovered, leading to misunderstanding.
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2. Why are security and maintenance charges tied to the property (unit) and not the individual?

Security and maintenance services are unit-based services, continuously provided to the same property regardless of ownership or occupancy.

These include guarding services, access control systems, CCTV, perimeter security, and internal infrastructure. Where charges remain unpaid, services have already been rendered to the unit. Accordingly, outstanding charges are attached to the unit, not the person.
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3. Why does the Residents’ Association not pursue the previous owner?

The Residents’ Association is not a party to any private Sale and Purchase Agreement (SPA) or tenancy agreement.
Once a property has been sold and the previous owner has vacated the Scheme, the RA has no contractual relationship with that party and no authority to enforce private agreements. Recovery of such matters is strictly between buyer and seller.
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4. Is this unfair to the new owner?

The RA acknowledges the concern. However, due diligence in property transactions rests with the buyer and seller, not the community.
To ensure transparency, a clear notice has long been displayed at the Scheme entrance, advising all prospective purchasers and tenants to verify the unit’s security and maintenance status with the RA prior to making any commitment.
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5. Does the RA force new owners to pay the previous owner’s debt?
No.
The RA does not compel payment to any party. How outstanding charges are addressed is a private contractual matter to be resolved between buyer and seller, typically within the SPA.
The RA’s role is limited to administering security services and enforcing approved SOPs consistently for the benefit of the community.
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6. Why is access card or automated barrier access sometimes restricted?

Restricted or manual access is a security management measure, not a penalty.
Where administrative or registration issues remain unresolved, access may be routed through guard-assisted lanes with identity verification. Access is not denied, and ownership rights are not affected.
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7. Is this practice lawful?
Yes.
Malaysian courts have affirmed that Residents’ Associations may impose reasonable access conditions on non-paying members within gated and guarded communities. Such practices are lawful, common nationwide, and necessary for fairness and security.
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8. Why can’t the RA simply write off outstanding charges?

Writing off outstanding charges upon every ownership change would unfairly burden paying residents and undermine the financial sustainability of the Scheme.
The RA has a fiduciary duty to act in the collective interest of all residents, not to absorb losses arising from private transactions.
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9. How can purchasers avoid this issue?

Prospective purchasers are strongly advised to:
1. Contact the RA before signing any agreement
2. Verify the unit’s security and maintenance status
3. Address any outstanding matters in the SPA
4. Complete access registration upon completion
This prevents almost all disputes.
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10. What is the RA’s guiding principle?

The RA operates on transparency, consistency, legality, and fairness to all residents, while ensuring the long-term sustainability of the Gated & Guarded Community Scheme.
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Persatuan Penduduk Jalan Putra Prima 2 (8A)
Management Committee

阿末扎希:打击罪案‧华裔勿旁观

社区保安, 袖手旁观?

8A 居民协会总动员在 11/12/2011星期天早上沿户拜访197家屋主徵求签署85%以上的篱墙保卫同意书

8A 居民协会总动员在 11/12/2011星期天早上沿户拜访197家屋主徵求签署85%以上的篱墙保卫同意书,以符合地方政府條例才能实行一切的保安设施.

下文摘自星洲日報/情在人間‧作者:張立德‧《星洲日報》主筆‧

張立德‧袖手旁觀?2013-07-09 08:40

这个年头,眼见各地都曾发生大小罪案,一些花园住宅是轮流被盯上,居民们於是自动组织社区保安计划,设置围篱,保护家园。现在大家虽然不是“亲上火线”参与巡逻,但保安人员薪水和围篱的维护,是需要大家出钱维持的。类似大小的社区围篱计划,当然不会100%得到所有居民的支持,但只要符合地方政府条例,仍然可以成行。阿末扎希所指的“袖手旁观”者,是不是那些不出力,又不出钱保卫家园的人士?

阿末扎希:打擊罪案‧華裔勿旁觀

The Gabungan Persatuan Penduduk Taman Putra Prima AGM was successfully held on 7th July 2013

Gabungan Persatuan Penduduk Taman Putra Prima

Gabungan Persatuan Penduduk Taman Putra Prima

The Fasa 8a RA Chairman Mr Kong Kok Meng was unopposed and duly elected  as Gabungan President for a tenure of 2 years (20013-2015)

Fasa 2A RA Chairman Mr Steve Jong and Secretary Mr Terence Choong were elected as Deputy President and Secretary of the Gabungan.

Mr Aaron Wong and Mr Ng Kuo Sin  of 8A were also elected as committee ordinary member and associate member of the Gabungan.

Detail please see Gabungan BlogSpot at link below:

http://gabungantpp.wordpress.com/

The rejuvenation of the landscape

The phenomenon of vitality and freshness or ecosystem being restored in Taman Putra Prima 8A eco-wetland

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Birds are singing and nesting in the bush by the stream, ponds filled with lily and lotus inhabitation to mixed species of dragonfly, fish and frog , wild and country grown flowers blooming all along the roads……..Let’s preserve all these and keep the biodiversity for our future generation……. being a vocal environmental and nature lover of Taman Putra Prima.

http://www.nre.gov.my/Malay/Pusat-Media/Penerbitan/Biodiversity%20in%20Malaysia.pdf

 

鸟语花香, 繁花满树, 争艳夺丽, 清香四溢.

 

Dragonfly, water Lily and pond, a truly life sustainable ecosystem

Dragonfly, water Lily and pond, a truly life sustainable ecosystem in PP8A wetland

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The native kingfisher of PP8A

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Luxuriant foliage of lotus at Jalan PP2/8 wetland

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Fleshy morning glory at the western end of Jalan PP2/8

Towards a successful Resident Association

How can residents play their part in sharing responsibilities?

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In today’s challenging living environment many housing estates today have their own Resident Associations. No matter whether a housing estate is big or small, it comprises a community who share the same common areas, roads, parks and recreational facilities. What more if majority of the residents are aspiring to live in a gated and guarded community which needs to collect security/maintenance fees and putting up a 24 hour operated guard house.

With these shared facilities they also share the same interest and responsibility of taking care of them by coming together and forming a Resident Association, to make sure their interests are protected.

More often than not, ordinary owners are only interested in their own purchase and most do not even consider their part in the community. This must change, as the spirit of caring for others in the community can only improve one’s life and not make it worse.

To begin:

  1. Get a few owners from your development area to volunteer.
  2. Get support from your surrounding residents to join the Resident’s Association.
  3. Request the developer’s assistance for contacts, or advertise through any media if necessary, or even conduct a house to house visit for your neighbours.
  4. Distribute details of owners keen to form an association to other owners.
  5. After receiving support from your neighbours, set a date to form the association.
  6. Elect the committee members. A good sized committee has between 10-12 members depending on the size of your housing area. Do take note: A committee with less people tends to be unrepresentative and too many people will make it difficult to operate. Each committee member has an important role to play. The 3 key roles in any committee are the chairperson, secretary and treasurer.

Once the resident association is formed and the committee is elected, write to the developer and relevant authorities to inform them of the existence of such an association and the key people to communicate with.

What is the advantage of a Resident’s Association?

  1. Work together to fight neighbourhood crimes such as snatch thieves, burglaries and break-ins.
  2. Have an advantage in working closely with the developer and authorities (MPSepang), to look after neighbourhood interests.
  3. Act as a watchdog for the community.
  4. Have a cohesive voice in the interest of the community.
  5. To share the workload should there be a need for sharing task.
  6. A contact point to serve as a communication centre among the neighbours. (like setting up a forum in blog)
  7. Share resources and ideas to maintain or improve the community, cleanliness and security.
  8. Increase the value of the property by developing a safe and friendly neighbourhood.
  9. Volunteer for a good cause towards an enjoyable life in the community.
  10. Budget 2013–RM40 million for 4,025 resident associations registered under the Registrar of Societies, with each association receiving RM10,000.

Quite often some major and controversial local issue is the stimulus to form an association, so do not wait until you have problems in the neighbourhood before setting up your Resident Association. Share the happy times together too. The pleasure of your new home is enhanced when you know your neighbours. Good dialogue sessions and careful advance planning among owners, developers and relevant authorities go a long way toward creating a successful community.

(This message is intended to share with our neighbouring phases in Taman Putra Prima who wish to form an RA and subsequently join us for the coalition or Gabungan Persatuan Penduduk / KRT Taman Putra Prima)

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Eco Wetland Serenity Blends With Comtemprory Architecture.

                                                                                                                                                                               

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Near Jalan PP2/8

Near Jalan PP2/8

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Full bloomed Lotus at PP8A wetland

Taman Putra Prima 8A, the gem of your investment & quality living in Puchong

Would you like to see PP8A fencing to be in this state after months or perhaps a year from now?

These pictures were taken from Taman Putra Prima various phases . (Note: all pictures with date inprint)

Those phases were handed over to purchasers  just about one or two years earlier than our phase 8A.

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the grass is over grown, the fence can hardly carry the loading

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the chairman hire worker at his own cost to clear the over grown weed exerting load on the weak fencing to prevent it from falling.

 

The clear path was maintained by the Chairman with his own worker/machine at his own cost for nearly a year before the Majlis took over after much solicitation.

How long will these well trimmed grasses / lawn and neat fencing at 8A going to stay, if the RA is not fully backed or echoed by the residents………

Neatly trimmed grass to both sides of the well maintained fencing at PP8A

Grass outside the perimeter fencing of PP8A is well trimmed to ease off pressure onto the poor quality and weakly supported chain link fence

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could this below be the only long term solution to safe guard your security and property value and to maintain the successful  Gated and Guarded Community Scheme exclusive image?

A more durable, stronger and better looking Galvanized BRC fencing will certainly give added security and value to your home or investment

Example of Galvanized BRC Mesh fencing

New schools badly needed in Puchong 蒲种华小爆满

(The Star Monday November 12, 2012)

There are currently four Chinese primary schools in Puchong with a total of 12,000 pupils. Due to increased population, some 1,500 students have to study in schools outside Puchong.

(蒲种11月9日讯)蒲种区人口剧增,单是区内4所华小生即达1万2000人,仍有1500人被迫到区外接受母语教育。

Taman Putra Prima Primary School Reserved Land

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http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?sec=central&file=/2012/11/12/central/12300407

http://www.nanyang.com/node/490786?tid=510

http://goodtimes.my/index.php/Politics-Government/chinese-schools-in-demand-in-puchong.html

http://putraprimapuchong.blogspot.com/2012/03/land-clearing-in-taman-putra-prima.html

Shall we (Taman Putra Prima Residents) jointly petition for one SRJK (C) in Taman Putra Prima???

 

 

 

The Routine Grass Cutting is now under MPSepang

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The Chairman had been battling on the quality and coverage / scope of grass cutting work for the last several months against the developer and contractor, he also eagerly seeking influence from Ahli Majlis and meeting the Director of Landscape for a more proper workdone. However the handover of the manicipal work was without any official notice neither from the developer nor the Majlis until the last quit rent assessment hearing as confirmed by the Pengarah of landscape that grass cutting, drain desilting and maintenance of infrastructure work was already taken over by the Majlis from the developer during the answering of questionaires raised by the chairman.

The developer failed to discharge its responsibility again on the official handover of the maintenance works to the Majlis without formally informing or making any courtesy call to the RA. Despite the fact, with firm determination, repeated assertion and insistence from the chairman, the contractor appointed by the Majlis now extended its coverage to include lawn trimming out side the perimeter fencing and to ensure the fencing is clear from any creeper and grass. Prior to this, the contractor was relunctant to cut any grass out side the perimeter fencing and claimed that it was not within their scope.

The grass trimming / shrubs clearing on both sides of the existing chain linked fence can not be compromised or taken lightly as TPP8A fencing is of very much inferior quality compared to that of 8B  which comes with a very durable and solid concrete block and galvanized mild steel reinfored fabric mesh fencing.

Perhaps the PP8A RA needs to consider seriously to set up a sinking fund now for the replacement of existing chain linked fence to a more durable and solid concrete base wall fencing  with galvanized fabric mesh (similar to picture below) before it starts falling apart in a very short future.

The thick grass land also provide ideal breeding ground for snake and nesting place for the wild quail. It is difficut to strike the balance in ecosystem.

Is quail entitled to have a nesting ground?

A more durable, stronger and better looking Galvanized BRC fencing will certainly give added security and value to your home or investment